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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:00 pm Reply with quote
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Read an article in TRUCKIN MAGAZINE where they showed an 02 Avalanche getting an engine swap, but before the swap they dyno'd it with the original 5.3 they were pulling, it ran well, and had 120,000 miles. Acording to the Mustang dyno they used, it had lost 83 horses durring its lifespan. Does this sound correct? Ive driven these trucks with well over 150,000 miles and they still pulled strong. Original plugs, maybee??

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Plugged CAT maybe?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:40 pm Reply with quote
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lol, how could someone not notice that.
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that is something major wrong, not just because of mileage. prob. only lose 5-10hp or something after 150k i would think.

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Not everyone goes balls to the wall in there vehicles. Or swapping owners.

Vehicles do wear out you do know that right? Efficiency and power can be lost if rings are wore out, injectors clogged, etc etc. I thought you were a mechanic? lol

Same way with anything really. If man makes it , it will break or wear out

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:11 pm Reply with quote
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lxtasy wrote:
Not everyone goes balls to the wall in there vehicles. Or swapping owners.

Vehicles do wear out you do know that right? Efficiency and power can be lost if rings are wore out, injectors clogged, etc etc. I thought you were a mechanic? lol

Same way with anything really. If man makes it , it will break or wear out
The truck was owned by the magazine staff for most of its life. I know things wear, but NOT THAT EXCCISIVELY! You would feel an 83hp loss. If you had clogged injectors or ring compression loss that bad you'd 1) FEEL a misfire, and 2) the check engine lamp would be on with a 300 code. Im not a mechanic, im a hack. Get it right!

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PEARL_JAM wrote:
lxtasy wrote:
Not everyone goes balls to the wall in there vehicles. Or swapping owners.

Vehicles do wear out you do know that right? Efficiency and power can be lost if rings are wore out, injectors clogged, etc etc. I thought you were a mechanic? lol

Same way with anything really. If man makes it , it will break or wear out
The truck was owned by the magazine staff for most of its life. I know things wear, but NOT THAT EXCCISIVELY! You would feel an 83hp loss. If you had clogged injectors or ring compression loss that bad you'd 1) FEEL a misfire, and 2) the check engine lamp would be on with a 300 code. Im not a mechanic, im a hack. Get it right!



lol. Well if the magazine owned it and not the same driver than I could see.

Did they dyno the truck on the same dyno when they first got it? or was it a mustang dyno and a dynojet.

SAE or STD numbers? On both occurances. Sorry, I no longer get Boatin' I mean Truckin' anymore.

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im betting the loss was adv. crank numbers vs what it actually put down...

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roadconetuning wrote:
im betting the loss was adv. crank numbers vs what it actually put down...

LMAO you know, you are probably right!! what happened to the REAL car guy writers? i would imagine they are hiring them according to their writing abilities and public speaking as opposed to their know how with the cars/trucks.

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i think they work for hotrod and a few of the other small domestic mags. i've seen a lot of BS in car mags...

working for the mags is less about talent and more about who you know now... there are a number of mustang mags i could point out that are proof to that, pics in them look like they were taken with a kodak dispozo camera in 1988 and somehow get published.

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petterson publishing owns most of the car mags.

mustang dynos read lower than others just like the cars themselves. low on hp...lol then if the first dyno runs were std/ sae/ or uncorrected would explain a lot even if it was done on the dynojet first go around.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:22 am Reply with quote
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oh yeah, magazine testing is fairly useless... if the company gives them a kicker they'll make things look GREAT...one example was the Professional Products typhoon intake for the 2v cars... it dynos less than stock on every single car ive seen so far unless it was a big boosted car and then it only gained after 5800 in real life... but the mag posted that it had 15tq down low and something like 45hp at 6200rpm over stock.

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roadconetuning wrote:
and something like 45hp at 6200rpm over stock.


lol, please don't tell me they made this claim on a stock or bolton car, or even cammed 2v for that matter, I would not believe it.
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QuickSilver wrote:
roadconetuning wrote:
and something like 45hp at 6200rpm over stock.


lol, please don't tell me they made this claim on a stock or bolton car, or even cammed 2v for that matter, I would not believe it.


the trickflow makes something like 30hp more at 6500 on a bolton car but thats not really useful considering its still falling off like a rock lol.

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Maybee they printed the hp loss in an effort to sell crate motors. "If you got over 120k your shit is weak.Replace it now!!" lol

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